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First pass looking at a hillslope vs. 'flat' case are here. A few notes, the hillslope case is a BGC-noCrop case that is not spun up, this is a 10 year simulation from year 180 of the AD spinup. The flat case is from the first decades of pSASU in #131, which is BGC-crop using an older parameter file which should have lower productivity in tropical and boreal forests. LAI and GPP are way up in the hillslope case (global GPP is 130 vs 100 PgC /y in hillsope and flat cases, respectively). Some of the biggest differences are in savannah regions. Here's a look at annual means for the two cases in southern Africa. |
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@lifang0209, we're trying a CRU-JRA forced run using the hillslope hydrology model and are seeing very high LAI and low burned area in Savanah regions. I'm assuming this is because of higher water table and wetter surface soils in the hillslope runs (see post above)? I'm wondering if you can suggest any change to the file mode we can explore here? The sample history output for the hillslope case is here: A corresponding 'flat' case is here Neither of these cases are spun up, they both are from ~180 y of AD spinup. Let me know if you have ideas / suggestions here, or if finding a time to talk would be helpful. Thank you. |
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@wwieder Are these offline simulations using the fire parameters tuned for the CESM coupled case? And is the hillslope in the CLM6 default? |
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@lifang0209 I will answer a couple of question for which I know the answers: You can see the lnd_in files here: |
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Thanks for this summary @lifang0209. I wonder how hard it would be for you to tune |
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@wwieder (1) I can send you the retuned rswf_max and rswf_min next Monday or Tuesday. I need to run a few experiments to determine the updated values. (2) I’m curious why root-zone soil moisture increases so much when hillslope processes are introduced, and whether this increase is physically realistic. In China’s ESMs (BCC and CAS), lower rswf_max and rswf_min than in CLM5 imply a drier root zone, yet adding the hillslope parameterization to CLM makes it much wetter. |
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@swensosc Thanks for the explanation. That's very helpful! I think the issue on fire simulations may be related to how the averaged root-zone soil wetness is correctly calculated for a PFT in a vegetated column when the hillslope model is active and lowland/upland columns are introduced. do fp = 1, num_exposedvegp do j = 1,nlevgrnd do fp = 1, num_exposedvegp |
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@swensosc Thanks, Sean! do fc = 1,num_soilc Sean, could you take a look at whether any modifications are needed when the hillslope model is active? It seems that we are only using the lowland column level (which is very wet). I suspect the column indexing is disrupted when the hillslope model is active. I set peat fires to zero in grid cells where the tropical forest area fraction exceeds 0.8 ((trotr1_col(c) + trotr2_col(c)) * col%wtgcell(c) > 0.8_r8). However, when hillslope is active, peat fires are unexpectedly greater than zero in these grid cells. I have a related question: when hillslope is active, for a grid cell that originally has 2 columns (e.g., a natural vegetated column and a rice column), does the number of columns increase to 4 (i.e., lowland and upland columns for the vegetated and rice columns, respectively)? |
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@swensosc Thanks. The reason I multiply by col%wtgcell(c) is that observations suggest there are no peat fires when tropical tree fraction exceeds 80% at the grid-cell level, so I need to convert the column-level fraction to a grid-level area fraction. I think I may have found the reason why burned area becomes so small when hillslope is active. Previously, each grid cell had only one natural vegetated column, so multiplying by col%wtgcell(c) correctly converted column-level fraction to grid-level area fraction and it's simple. With hillslope on, that natural vegetated column is split into upland and lowland columns, so col%wtgcell(c) for each one is smaller. The same issue likely affects lfwt(c) in the non-peat burned area calculation outside tropical closed forests and croplands. I’ll submit two simulations to test this. |
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@wwieder Hi Will, could you re-run the spin-up using the corrected F90 files in /glade/u/home/fangli/will2026/hh-test/SourceMods/src.clm ? I added tgswt to represent the gridcell fractional coverage of tree, grass, and shrub PFTs. This is meant to capture the continuity of natural vegetation within a grid cell: if the fractions of urban, cropland, bare soil, or lake are larger, then tgswt is smaller, and fuel continuity is reduced. When hillslope is off, there is only one natural vegetation column in a grid cell, so lfwt(c) (sum of tree, grass, shrub's patch%wtgcell(p)) correctly represents tgswt(g) without introducing a new variable name. However, when hillslope is on, that is no longer correct. After you get a 1850 spin-up, we can see whether we need to tune the thresholds for btran2. @swensosc Thanks, Sean! but I need the gridcell fraction. |
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I'm also testing this in a non-hillslope run in #161 |












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In #147 I started a spinup using @swensosc's hillslope branch to start evaluating carbon cycle difference with the hillslope model turned on. Expected changes were higher soil C pools where higher water table causes lower values for the O-scalar, which would increase soil C pools (this seems accurate, although not shown).
It seems like our latest 'flat' f09 case is #131, which doesn't have all the latest PPE calibrations, but hopefully it isn't far off. The hillslope case also is using the two most dominant PFTs and no-crop while the flat case is full PFT crop simulation. Results are all for 1850 land use, CO2, etc.
After 180 years of AD spinup we're seeing really big differences in savannah LAIs (here #147-131), left panel. The 'raw data' from the baseline case (131) is on the right
What could be causing this? A few poorly formed thoughts, which are likely interacting:
I'm going to get some of the column and PFT level output to start diagnosing this
@swensosc will work on creating a regional sandbox to start investigating
@linniahawkins, @dlawrenncar, @lifang0209, @slevis-lmwg, @olyson curious to hear your thoughts here.
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